he loves politics, reaching out but i do believe that this -- that president obama and secretary clinton have become real good, close friends. he's relied on her. her judgment. he trusts her advice. this is a relationship that i think has been forged during the four years that they've worked very closely together. >> i want to go something in the immediate future which is the super bowl and transition to football and, again, talk about something i thought was quite extraordinary in your interview, chris hughes. president obama was asked, i'm wonder if you as a fan take less pleasure in watching football knowing the impact it takes on the game's players. i'm a big football fan but i have to tell you if i had a son i'd have to think long and hard before i let him play football. i happen to be the mother of a college football player, so i read that especially carefully. i want your reaction to that, george. >> the kinetic energy in the football program at kenyan college where your son is a football player is different than the nfl. >> yes, he seemed more concern about college football than